I don't believe that all aprticipants needs to be trained mediums to use a Ouija board. And to me, an Ouija and glass divination are both the same but in different forms. As long as all participants are sober (no booze or drugs) and atleast 1 person at the sitting is experienced in something such as this, it can be enjoyed by all.

On these big events, of course people want to conduct an Ouija, it's part of the 'experience'. The majority that are paying £30,£40,£50 want an evening of 'experiencing something', which I don't see as an issue, it's entertainment. But I would say that if anyone wants to be more serious, than to try and join a decent team or be invited as a guest.

I don't see Ouijas/glass divination as not having a place on investigations. But I do think that you get a sense of a location,as to whether or not it's something worth doing and of course, permission gained from a client/owner is a must have.

I think that if the participants know nothing of the location, it can add to the anticipation and I agree with the above comments about blind folding and switching around letters. Even a scientific based team needs to test the waters with certain things and I think and experiment like that, could open up some surprises. Might be worth thinking about testing, random forum/investigation guests, unknown location etc but my mind is going off on one with ideas

I think I need a coffee, that's the most I've used my brain this year!

We did do glass divination on a few of our workshops, but IMO the results weren't conclusive, in fact they were confusing.
When doing a session like that you don't only invite the spirits that are already present at the location, but also those from outside. And for us, as investigators, that is not the aim... how can you say that a place is haunted when you invite other spirits in as well. And they come, no matter how often you state, that you only want to talk to those that belong there. Plus the fact, that there is always the chance of someone moving the glass (or planchette in the case of a Ouija-Board un-/consciously).
But I think I've already said that in my former posts

Of course it is entertaining, I don't deny it. But we, as a team with a scientific approach, are looking for credible evidence... and Ouija-Boards & Co are simply not the devices to deliver that.

Greetz,
Hella

This is a subject ive always wondered about, Great thread by the way ive really enjoyed reading everything up to this point. That videos disturbing! Real or not!

My personal opinion is that i dont like the ouija board because of all the uncertainty that surrounds them ive never took part in using 1 and dont want to! In fact i wouldnt even be here on this forum now if i had chosen too!! I went of on a lone vigil instead of taking part in the ouija board on the ghost hunt i went on and if i had i would of missed the things i saw thats changed my mind about all this paranormal business!

2 things id like to pick up on, Firstly i really agree with those that say that the board is more dangerous to those who arent as erm.. "sturdy" or "headstrong" as the physcological damage can be longer lasting than anything the board may throw up! Secondly ive got to agree with those that say that some organised event teams are to blazzay (not sure how u spell that!) with the use of the board. In my experience i thought that the host was a bit free and easy with the fact we were going to be using one but at the time i didnt really think much into it as i knew i wouldnt be taking part in that aspect of the experience, please note that im not taking anything away from the Host it was an amazing night and they did a great job of making the experience a good one.

I must say i like the GPS aproach about the scientific side to it all, very sensible IMO!!!

Tob.

Ouija Boards are very interesting and I have had some experiences with them when I was younger. I do not use them anymore, mainly because they are such a slow method of communication. There is also the dilemma of it is real, isn't it etc. and that has always made me wonder.

I have trained in the arts of psychic attack and defence and have been asked on many occasions to go to houses where people have used a Board and things have started happening afterwards. I have gone in and there has been vortex after vortex opened by people who do not know what they are doing and have basically said "Is there anybody there" and you can only imagine what has come through.

On the other hand, Ouija Boards can often create a psychological process of "knowing they are bad so if I use one I will turn bad or bad things will happen" and this can create issues of mental health particularly with people who have previous mental health issues. As a social worker I have worked with people who have had these types of thoughts, and that their perception of events of moving a glass around a Board has become something much more, i.e. bad souls making them think bad thoughts and concerns they will act on those thoughts. This can become a very serious issue if not dealt with promptly or with proper therapeutic intervention and I feel that is the reason why a trained medium should always be involved in the session to not only control the session and take care of any problems, but also to be able to observe the participants and be mindful of their health and wellbeing.

Regardless of this, I still enjoy watching a good Ouija Board session.

Hi Dawny,

Thank you for your interesting point of view on this subject.

It only confirms what I think about Ouija-Boards, even if your thread of thoughts is a bit different to mine.

In the end, I think, we can agree, that a Ouija-Board can be very dangerous in inexperienced hands.

What drives me up the wall in a way is, that some people think that they are experienced in using Ouija-Boards, but their psychic abilities are not trained and developed enough to enable them to control what is coming through. This way, they can't judge how malevolent a spirit is and it's abilities to latch on to people or a location.

But try to tell those people to leave their hands off Ouija-Boards.... no chance.

So I guess we will come across the aftermaths of failed Ouija-Board sessions again and again.

Regards,
Hella

Hi Everyone!
Our group tried the board out once because we too had an increase in clients contacting us after having used it and then, of course, having problems afterwards. One of the team members who did not want to be a sitter made the board. The 2 sitters, myself and a new member who was obsessed with trying it, were blindfolded and the board was placed between them. Frank then turned the baord to different angles and even flipped it over once. I personally did not feel a presence and the answers we received to Frank's questions were incoherent and jumbled. It was basically junk but the glass moved which I can only attribute to the new member influencing the glass. We definetly did not make contact. Maybe that was the problem... if the board works at all. We're still not sure about that. But at least when we have another client who played with it, we'll be better prepared using our own experience with it.
I do agree with you, Arwen. The board can be dangerous and from what we've seen, it could be instrumental in building a bridge to the other side. IMO it is not the board itself but rather the participants desire to experience something paranormal and the board acts as a means of concentrating the desires of those participating which opens a door. Not the board itself. I hope that is understandable
TLA

Absolutely, TLA.

The board is just the instrument... it's what we do and the strength of our minds that can cause problems... psychological, mental or spiritual, I suppose that depends on the point of view, but IMO it can be all three.

If you like playing russian roulette, then go ahead and use it, because its nearly the same thing (except you obviously wont send your brain flying if you get unlucky). Just takes one time to get unlucky and you have a serious problem. Plus its a mortal sin to use one, if your religious that is. Wont get too detailed, but clairvoyancy and mediumship is also a mortal sin (if your a christian that is) Anyways, thats just my take on the subject of ouija boards (quickly hides his). >_>