Lol we will phone the next time Robb ,it would have been to have you there .

LOL Rob, I though you pointed out, that you don't like public events? See??? They are not that bad at all

Hi guys,

I've been researching the names that we got from the glass divination and also the ones Joan got.. to no avail
of course it doesn't necessarily mean anything... some of the lists available online aren't complete. I am also waiting for replies to a few requests that I've send. LOL the Tasmanian records office replied immediately... saying that they were on holidays until the 24th of September and that they would deal with my request as soon as they were back clocks seem to tick differently down under.


Debz and Wolfram are still searching as far as I know... maybe they find something.

Fingers crossed,
Hella

Hi all

What's the update on any confirmations of names you were given of those who were hung or transported?

As you can see from my name, I'm very sceptical but I am interested in your findings.

best wishes

VS

Hi VerySkeptic,

first of all, welcome to our forum

We didn't find much about these names, I am afraid .
I did find four men of the name Humphrey, who were transported to Tasmania (Van Deemen's Land, as he stated in the automatic writing). Three of them left England from Portsmouth, one from Plymouth. None of them was tried in Exeter, but that doesn't say much, because convicts were often brought a long distance via Exeter, where some of them had to wait terrible long months for their ship. They have all been transported between 1822 and 1836. So who knows? One of them might have been "our" Humphrey.

(An interesting fact is, that people sometimes had to wait months for their actual trial, their cases being called up again and again, sometimes it took over a year until they were actually sentenced. Then they had to wait until a ship was found for them, a certain amount of convicts were collected, and then they were actually brought to the different harbours. This journey could take weeks, because on the way other convicts were picked up as well. If the prisons in the harbours were full, they had to wait in the next bigger prison closest to the port. Then months on a convicts ship, where a lot of people died. By the time they had actually arrived at their destination it could well be, that up to 3 years had passed, but on top of that they had to work off the 7, 10 or 14 years of hard labour in the colonies. A lot of people were transported only for stealing bread or clothes)

About the others we couldn't find out anything at all, not even the judge, who was so full of himself.

The medium Joan said, that often a lot of spirits don't even belong to the location that she is visiting. They are kind of popping in, seeking for help, somehow sensing that the can be helped.
So maybe the names weren't connected to Exeter at all.
There is also the possibility that the executed didn't use their real names when they were tried. Sometimes people used their maiden names, their mother's maiden names or simply made up names.

I do believe in real mediumship and I am sure that Joan is trustworthy, but spirits can lie, too.

We more or less gave up digging for the names, but that doesn't necessarily mean, that they never existed. A lot of the records aren't available online, and because none of us is living in Exeter, we couldn't search the records offices.

I have send off e-mails to the concerning archives, even one to Tasmania. all of them to no avail, because we don't have any dates whatsoever. The replies were, that they weren't able to help us, because it would be too time consuming to go through thousands of names without even having a year.

Meanwhile Joan is still researching, as much as it it possible to her (she is a busy woman).

It won't be the last time, that we will investigate Exeter Castle, and we did find matches during the research for the previous investigations, most of them on the list of convicts, that were send to Australia. they were names, that members of the public, who joined us on those nights have picked up.

Should we find out anything about the names, I will post it here immediately.

cheers,
Hella

Hi Arwen

Thanks for the welcome!

So there's no evidence whatsoever then that ANY names cited by Joan were actually incarcerated in Exeter Castle.

It's all very well to speculate that some of them MIGHT have been but that's not very scientific is it? I could speculate that all sorts of people MIGHT have been there but without any evidence, my speculation is just hot air, the same as yours.

I'm not suggesting that Joan is anything other than genuine in her beliefs but all sorts of people believe all sorts of things that don't actually have any basis in reality.

If you want to be really scientific about this, you need to shed your "belief" in ghosts and just be hard nosed about facts. So far, there are no facts that support ANY of Joan's reports of her interactions with dead people at Exeter Castle. Therefore, her interactions are only in her mind and provide NO evidence to support the notion that ghosts exist.

Apologies if I sound abrasive - I'm appreciative that you have permitted me to post on your forum - thank you for that.

best wishes

VS